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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was speedy keep‎. Nomination withdrawn with no remaining deletion proposals. (non-admin closure) Atlantic306 (talk) 00:56, 2 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Spirit Lost[edit]

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Article fails WP:SIGCOV, WP:NFO and WP:NFSOURCES. I found no reviews on Rotten Tomatoes. I did a WP:BEFORE and found nothing suitable to pass WP:NEXIST. The Film Creator (talk) 17:48, 26 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. The Film Creator (talk) 17:48, 26 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. I was able to find where one scholar covered this film twice in her works, but unfortunately wasn't able to find much more. I was hoping I could save this one, as I remember seeing this on the shelves of my local video stores all the time and it made me a bit nostalgic for those days. Ah well. If someone can find more, I'm open to changing my mind. ReaderofthePack(formerly Tokyogirl79) (。◕‿◕。) 18:24, 26 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Redirect to Nancy Thayer - No clue why the current source for 1944 movie is in article, but in Thayer's article I found a mention of a source that mentions the book being adapted to this movie (Contemporary authors. Volume 155 p.400). There is more on next page about the book and it mentions and quotes specifically a review of book in Kirkus Reviews [1]. If we can find more reliable sources, could perhaps be an article for both the book and/or movie. Noticed the two book sources added as I was writing this, but as mention same author. WikiVirusC(talk) 18:26, 26 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Noticed a review in Neema Barnette's article, from Indianapolis Recorder - "`Spirit Lost' a low-down psychological thriller" June 10, 1995[2]. Saw other articles that mention film, mostly in context of Tim Reid producing it, a fact which never seemed to make into this or his article. A few described it as erotic film although these were before or while it was in production.[3] Without additional reviews I'll still lean redirect. WikiVirusC(talk) 19:26, 26 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - With the additional sources and reviews found by Cunard, I will switch over from redirect. WikiVirusC(talk) 12:45, 27 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. Sources added to the page or mentioned above by ReaderofthePack and WikiVirusC attest a certain notability.— MY, OH, MY! 08:44, 27 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources.
    1. "Spirit Lost Reviews". TV Guide. Archived from the original on 2023-04-27. Retrieved 2023-04-27.

      The film review provides 439 words of coverage about the subject. The film review notes: "Pokily directed, the script is so talky that viewers will feel as if they've been possessed by the spirit of a flock of magpies. Instead of a sexy ghost saga, viewers get characters who do nothing but moan, surmise, and postulate endlessly; the scenes of supernatural copulation are a bust, mainly because leading man Leon brings little to this ghost-fete except a solid physique. Amateurishly acted by a cast defeated by a flimsy script and zombie-esque direction, Spirit Lost delivers the zing of an infomercial about the best way to rid your home of pesky poltergeists."

    2. Books authored or co-authored by Robin R. Means Coleman:
      1. Means Coleman, Robin R. (2011). Horror Noire: Blacks in American Horror Films from the 1890s to Present. New York: Routledge. pp. 182183. ISBN 978-0-415-88019-0. Retrieved 2023-04-27.

        The book notes: "Spirit Lost (1997), like Embalmer, was no blockbuster. However, it was the rare horror film that was nearly an all-female affair. Spirit Lost is based on a book of the same title by Nancy Thayer. ... The screenplay was written by Joyce Lewis, who changed the New England location to Catch Hook Island, presumably much farther south. The independent straight-to-video "Black horror" film was directed by Neema Barnette, the rare (Black) female horror film director, who has an extensive television-directing portfolio. Spirit is interesting in that it moves "Black horror" out of the urban to the seaside while recuperating out-of-the-Caribbean Voodoo myths."

      2. Means Coleman, Robin R.; Harris, Mark H. (2023). The Black Guy Dies First: Black Horror Cinema from Fodder to Oscar. New York: Saga Press. pp. 172–173. ISBN 978-1-9821-8653-1. Retrieved 2023-04-27 – via Google Books.

        The book notes: "With a significantly smaller budget and a greater reliance on soft-focus lenses, Neema Barnette’s Spirit Lost (1996) likewise is a supernatural drama in which the protagonist becomes entwined in a codependent relationship with a ghostly presence. In this instance, the victim is an aspiring painter named John (Leon. Just Leon.) who moves with his wife, Willy (Regina Taylor), to a small coastal town to focus on his art. What he ends up focusing on, though, is the thirsty, oft-naked woman in his attic. Turns out she’s the lovelorn spirit of a slave woman named Arabella (Cynda Williams), who was spurned by her White owner/lover in favor of a “proper English woman?” She died of a broken heart—or possibly rickets, since vitamin D supplements were hard to come by in the eighteenth century."

    3. "Spirit Lost (Live, 96) D Neema Barnette, S Joyce Renee Lewis, P Tim Reid". Psychotronic Video. No. 25. 1997. p. 11. Retrieved 2023-04-27 – via Internet Archive.

      The film review provides 128 words of coverage about the subject. The film review notes: "John (Leon), a painter, and his wife (Regina Taylor) move into an old house on an island. The seductive widow ghost of Arabella (Cynda Williams) shows up in mirrors, windows and in John's dreams and nightmares. She eventually lures him into moving into his attic studio while she tries to scare his now unhappy and pregnant wife away. Williams has nude scenes, but the sex is mostly undercover. The Black Entertainment Network Production (based on a novel) is more concerned with black women supporting each other, so don't expect the usual exploitation. With Juanita Jennings as a Jamaican nurse and James Avery. It was made in Virginia. The producer was Venus Flytrap on WKRP. "

    4. "'Spirit Lost' to be shot in Neck: Errotic horror movie set in White Stone". Richmond Times-Dispatch. 1995-04-16. Archived from the original on 2023-04-27. Retrieved 2023-04-27 – via Newspapers.com.

      The article notes: ""Spirit Lost," an erotic horror film, is scheduled to begin filming in White Stone on May 1, said film publicist Kenneth Reynolds. No cast has been announced yet. ... The story involves an art dealer and his wife who move to a new house -- shot in White Stone, though the town will be fictional. A beautiful ghost inhabits the attic studio and initiates an affair with the man, which leads to dire consequences."

    5. "Video Review: 'Spirit Lost'". Entertainment Weekly. 1997-04-04. Archived from the original on 2023-04-27. Retrieved 2023-04-27.

      The film review provides 86 words of coverage about the subject. The film review notes: "hough Spirit attempts to satiate — combining a beautiful black couple, an exotic island locale, obsession, African-American folklore, and even the requisite spirit-meets-human sex scene — blah acting by Leon and Cynda Williams and a contrived ending prevent this gumbo from bubbling beyond a simmer. C-"

    6. Mustazza, Leonard (2006). The Literary Filmography: 6,200 Adaptations of Books, Short Stories and Other Nondramatic Works. Vol. 2. Jefferson, North Carolina: McFarland & Company. p. 521. ISBN 0-7864-2471-0. Retrieved 2023-04-27 – via Google Books.

      The book notes: "4221. (Nancy Thayer, 1988). A painter and his pregnant wife move from an apartment in Boston to an old house on Nantucket island, where the ghost of a beautiful woman tries to lure him from his wife. Adaptation: Spirit Lost (Live Entertainment, 1996). Dir: Neema Barnette. Scr: Joyce Renee Lewis. Cast: Regina Taylor (Willy), J. Michael Hunter (Harrison), Cynda Williams (Arabella). DVD, VHS."

    7. Nowlan, Robert A.; Nolan, Gwendolyn L. (2001). The Films of the Nineties: A Complete, Qualitative Filmography of Over 3000 Feature-length English Language Films, Theatrical and Video-only, Released Between January 1, 1990, and December 31, 1999. Jefferson, North Carolina: McFarland & Company. p. 510. ISBN 0-7864-0974-6. Retrieved 2023-04-27 – via Internet Archive.

      The book notes: "Robinson quits his job and moves with his wife Taylor to a remote seaside house where he can pursue a career as a painter. After discovering she is pregnant, Taylor begins to see apparitions of Williams, a 200-year-old spirit. The latter entices Robinson into a sexual relationship and seeks to get rid of Taylor."

    8. "'Spirit Lost' a low-down psychological thriller". Indianapolis Recorder. 1995-06-10. Archived from the original on 2023-04-27. Retrieved 2023-04-27 – via Hoosier State Chronicles.

      The article notes: ""Spirit Lost" is the third feature film to be produced by veteran actor Tim Reid, his United Entertainment and BET Films. ... "Spirit Lost" is the story of a "brother" who is caught between two women, one of whom happens to be a ghost. Directed by Neema Barnette, the film stars Regina Taylor of "I'll Fly Away" and Leon from "The Five Heartbeats." It is based on a novel by Nancy Thayer."

    There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow Spirit Lost to pass Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline, which requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject".

    Cunard (talk) 08:52, 27 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.